Femme Hatred in Non-Binary Communities

I wanted to add that I don’t see this in non-binary people who were assigned male at birth, but I definitely do see it in non-binary people who are AFAB and I struggle with it myself.

Reblogged from Boldly Go

I wanted to talk about something I’ve witnessed across many different communities amongst some non-binary identified individuals: femme hatred or just the overwhelming avoidance of the feminine within non-binary identified individuals.

I want to preface this by saying that on a base level, I understand some of the anti-fem attitudes I see. Because I am AFAB (“assigned female at birth”, for those who don’t know that acroymn), I have a variety of different reactions when people perceive and judge my gender. Although I’m non-binary identified, because I am constantly analysed through a binary lens, different ways of interpreting my identity illicit different responses. When I’m assumed female, this has, in the past, demonstrated to me that I have somehow failed in an attempt to create non-binary presentation. In other words, I am somehow gendered, despite not wanting to be.

I've already drawn comparisons between the two in my previous article but as both of them are considered androgynous in their representation here, it's interesting to note they're both wearing suits, which could be consider "masculine" clothing,

I’ve already drawn comparisons between the two in my previous article but as both of them are considered androgynous in their representation here, it’s interesting to note they’re both wearing suits, which could be consider “masculine” clothing,

When I’m assumed male, this demonstrates to me that I have some how succeeded in an attempt to create a non-binary presentation. I am still gendered in society’s eyes, even in a way I don’t want to be. Being non-binary means that I don’t identify with either option, but yet, being assumed male because I am AFAB means that I have somehow won, I’ve somehow subverted understandings of gendered norms and at least crossed a boundary in what I’m used to being perceived as. Therefore, it would make a lot of sense that being assumed female contains a lot more negative emotions than being assumed male does.

So on a basic level, I get some of the hatred and avoidance of femininity. If that just reaffirms an identity to others that you don’t have, then I understand wanting to stay away from it. I see lot of examples of explaining non-binary identities or genderqueerness by putting gender on a spectrum with “male” or “masculine” on one side and “female” and “feminine” on the other side, with genderqueer or non-binary identities set right in the middle. While this gradient may illustrate the point very clearly to cis people or binary identified people, I feel like the gradient really fails to capture the essence of gender expression and interpretation in Western society.

One of the many incarnations of the "Genderbread" person, a quick guide to explaining the differences between sex, gender, orientation, and expresion.

One of the many incarnations of the “Genderbread” person (by jermo234), a quick guide to explaining the differences between sex, gender, orientation, and expresion.

While the experience of different marginalisations and intersections always differs, one thing that many privileges have in common is being a cultural and social default. So, for example, a privilege of whiteness within Western culture is that whiteness is so often considered a default. “Flesh tone” is code for “white skin”, items of clothing, bandages, or other items that are meant to blend in with skin or look like skin always reflect whiteness, the majority of individuals represented in films as a default are white, and artists consider the race of a sculpture as white immediately before anything else. That’s just one part of privilege.

Maleness and masculinity have that same privilege within Western society. Groups of individuals are commonly referred to with male pronouns or male signifiers (those guys) and masculine general names are considered gender neutral (dude) where female or feminine signifiers (ladies, girls) are not given the same flexibility. Default avatars and representations of humans are always masculine bodied and represent Western society’s concept of a “male” figure. Curvy shapes with breasts or hips never enjoy that same freedom. Therefore what becomes inevitably clear is that within Western society, non-binary individuals do not and cannot exist in between the gradient of “masculine” and “feminine” when masculine is a cultural default.

A collection of default avatars, most containing "masculine" features.

A collection of default avatars, most containing “masculine” features.

I’ve already discussed how I feel that androgyny for AFAB individuals tends to create a situation where we must become much more masculine and abandon all feminine qualities in order to achieve a “genderless” look. Therefore I understand why a rejection of the feminine, femme-ness, and “female” represents some freedom from gendered constraints. Within this gender disordered society, many are often searching for something that will get a recognition of gender neutrality or at least a lack of gender from others. But what I think a lot of non-binary people forget is that we’re negotiating with a society that refuses to accept our existence all together. Audre Lorde once wrote, “The masters tools will never dismantle the master’s house.” Playing by their rules of “gender” and what is constructed as “genderless” may not actually break any of those rules.

I don’t wish to say that should a non-binary identified person choose to dress more masculinely or overall have a more masculine presentation that they are somehow buying into the binary or reinforcing any harmful stereotypes. At the end of the day, I think what feels comfortable for your own personal expression is something I don’t have the right to dictate and the last thing I would want to do is force someone into yet another gendered box, since that’s what I feel like is already happening left and right.

Instead, I would like to see more non-binary people, if they haven’t, reconsider their aversion to the femme and femininity. Because so much of our culture is already so anti-feminine and pro-masculine. None of exist within a social vacuum, we’re all positioned toward a state of femme rejection and hatred. I think it’s worth examining those attitudes at least once over.


3 thoughts on “Femme Hatred in Non-Binary Communities

  1. great point. I don’t know how this is for others, but for me, I have a certain degree of femmephobia for myself that I’m trying to overcome and it’s essentially based in trauma. It’s not easy to unpack, for sure. I don’t intend to make being AfaB or even my non-binary identity a big part of my life or what I think about, but it is important in the way that it has structured almost all of the traumatic experiences I’ve had. I came out pretty early, at 16, and started living as a pretty glam kid in a fairly accepting community. But accepting community didn’t last and I ended up going through a lot of struggle and facing some extremely poisonous happenings (I won’t go into it). In general, there was denial of my gender identity as part of these experiences. My gender identity was often held to be illegitimate. within a few years I was presenting as 110% masculine and considering physical transition which I eventually began to undertake. I’ve started a long process of reclaiming my femininity in my gender performance and really experiencing the joy I feel in being feminine, mixed and being a girly person sometimes. This has been tenuous but feminism’s been a help and lots of deconstruction has been a help, consent culture, &c.

    There was a bit in Stone Butch Blues about butches kind of butching up more or becoming stone after sustaining multiple traumatic interactions with cops. This isn’t to say that any person’s butch or masc identity is false, but that our performance of gender is going to be skewed by our fear in many cases.

  2. It’s interesting that you mention “butching up” after traumatic interactions with cops, because I was talking earlier today with some friends about how a lot of people in our community have really macho attitudes about their own trauma as well as other people’s, especially in regards to cop related trauma. It was kind of long, winding conversation about the penal system, trauma and macho bullshit (we’re trying to get a mental health support group together for people with cop/arrest/incarceration based trauma) , but what I’ve been noticing that there’s a certain level of femmephobia that occurs in radical communities in general, not just amongst queers, maybe that’s just here where I live, but I doubt it.


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